Do you believe that it was right for America to go into Iraq?

I don't believe that it was right at all. Why would you want to force a government to become a democracy?

I don't think it was right either. I don't think it was any of our buisness. . .

IceMasterX is right. Its just none of our business, even though we should have a say about it.

I meant I didn't think it was any of the U.S.'s buisness. . .but that's just my opinion. . .

I think that going to war was a bit drastic. A democracy can only be better for them, though. However, I hate the fact that we invaded their country, usurped their leader, and started a war. It's killed so many people, and there was probably a better way to do this.

We should have done lots of research before going to war with Iraq and causing lots of trouble. We could have found a better way to do it.

To be honest, the reason why we didn't do much research is because of Bush. -_-

I definitely agree. Dubya is a dumbo. :lol: That's what my mom says. :D

Dubya? XD That's a good one. :P

I think you all forget that the president is no dictator or absolutist, he cannot just go to war without Congress approval, it was the government's decision, and since the voters elect Congress, it is America's decision. Sad that many Americans forget how the political system works...

Really, if the US does not play cop, then things could go out of hand. This has existed since the Cold War era, so this is not the first nor last American governmental influence...

Whadda you mean? *XD* It was Congress that thought of the idea. It was Bush himself.

"Following the overthrow of the Taliban, President Bush also promoted urgent action in Iraq, stating that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and that in the post 9/11 world it was too dangerous to allow unstable regimes to possess weapons that could "potentially fall into the hands of terrorists." "
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush#Afghanistan

What do I mean? I do not have the time to give you an essay right now, but the president still has to go through Congress, he cannot go and do whatever he wants. If it was a bad idea, it would not have left Congress.

Oh, so you think that Congress is ACTUALLY a smart and wise system? Of course it was a bad idea. And Congress was stupid enough to agree with Bush.

AM, we don't want any lecture about how the government works. Now we have a democratic House and Senate, but when we went to war, we had had a Republican house and Senate. So not everybody wanted to go to war. You haven't told us your views on it yet, AM, and I'd like you to. We're not debating on how our government works, I've learned enough about that this year. *looks over at large stacks full of History homework*

I'm not totally sure, but weren't the Republicans wanting to go to war and the democrats not?

And Bush would have never became president if there wasn't that accident in Florida!

You know now that I disagree with the Iraq War in almost every way. Of course who am I? I'm 11 and I'm debating about national issues!

Well, I'm don't understand anything, since I'm only 17 and I live in England. You are all making my head hurt :wacko:

*looks at the mess Bush has made in Iraq* Dumbo makes me mad. Very mad. <_<

Recap:

America went and invaded Iraq because we thought they were hiding Weapons Of Mass Destruction. We fought against people and captured their dictator leader, thinking we were setting them free from his totalitarianism, but we just ended up driving the country into even more turmoil. We set up a crude democratic government for them, but it didn't work out well. There's still a lot of fighting. Suicide bombings. Lots of people needlessly killed.

All in all, it's really unpleasant.

As Agent Myst pointed out, though, it's as much congress' fault as it is Bush's. Living in one of the bluest states in the whole country, of course I'm anti-Bush. However, Bush is for the most part a public icon. He really didn't make most of the descisions. It's more likely to be our vice president Cheney that drove us into war. He's bad, bad to the bone.

((Wow, Mudkip, you're much older than me. I turn 13 next week. o_o))

I'm an anti-Bush person in a really red state! I feel like what I think doesn't count because my state's always going to go red. . .
I'm just turned 11 and a half!

IceMaster, what did happen in Florida?

Well, there was this large number of people and the votes got mixed up or something. I don't know the whole story. . .but Al Gore was going to be president if it wasn't for the mix-up, 'cause Florida would have won it for him. . .

Actually, Florida is just slow in counting its votes. They take extra care to not mess up, so they're really unlikely to have made a mistake.

The real reason is the idiotic electoral vote system we have. It's complicated, but I'll try to explain it. Now begin the lecture on economics from a thirteen-year-old.

Each state has a certain amount of electoral votes according to their house and senate representatives. The house representative's number depends on the population of the state, and the has two per state. Each state holds elections, and according to those elections, they give their votes to the democratic representative or the republican representative (Resulting in 'Red' or 'Blue' states). This makes it so that one person can get more electoral votes while actually getting less votes overall.

Bush got more electoral votes than Gore even though Gore got more overall votes than him. I'm totally opposed to the system we have, but we have it.

I know what electorial votes are, thank you very much. I've studied them all year. It wasn't that Florida mis-counted the votes, it was something else that happened. . .I forgot what it was, but I'll find out what it was sometime and tell you. . .

Now you're just contradicting yourself, and I just told you what happened. There was no mess-up, it's just how the system works.

I'm not sure if there was a mess-up. I live in Florida.

But how do we know that there was or wasn't one?

End of subject please. I know there was an accident in Florida, okay?
Now let's change the subject.

The USA went in first, which is what is wrong about a war. They aren't helping. They're invading Iraq.

Even though the terrorists committed the 9/11 incident to get back at the USA, they did what they believed was right, which is a bad thing. If the terrorists believe what they are doing is just, then we need to convince them otherwise. What is really depressing is that ever since the whole Iraq issue became magnified by the bombings, everybody has been treating all Muslims differently, as if they all follow the terrorist's lead. Most Muslims are against conflict and violence as well, and shouldn't be judged by their religion or ethnicity. You've got to think though, the States started the war by sending their soldiers in the first place.

Off the whole Iraq issue though, there shouldn't be any war. The only reason there is War now is because of beliefs of certain people in the Middle East and beliefs of those in the White House over in America. Another World War will probably never happen, as all countries are more united and a lot more mature than people like Hitler were back during the Holocaust. Everybody understands this. The only thing that will provoke war from here on in will probably be religion. John Lennon said it in wise words, "without religion, there would be no war" or something of the sort. What is really strange though, is that religious leaders are usually against having wars, but some extremists always come along and ruin it.

I've got nothing against religion, I'm apparently a Christian as well, but it really isn't helping. War is bad. Violence is not the answer. Even if people disagree over something, they should sort it out through verbal communication, not through killing innocent people and knocking over buildings.

I hope that Muslims will not be discriminated against in the future. There's an girl form Iran in my class... and that would be horrible...

It already happens at some places in Australia. A lot of people have common sense, but a lot of people don't read the papers properly and think that all Muslims are bad. I'm with you, though, I really hope it doesn't continue.

From what I remember before it was considered a "war", we were the ones who went over there and HELPED them and killed bothered whatshisname for them. Yeah, that sounds right and ok.

But I really don't understand why they got all PO'ed at us.

Sorry for living under a rock but I'm not really a politics person. :3

They went over to get rid of the terrorist groups over there (I think), so that means it's a war between the USA and the terrorist groups (not Iraq) that is being staged in Iraq. Many people support these terrorist groups out of fear and out of other reasons, and some just don't want any help from the USA.

I don't really know the details behind it or what it's for - freeing the people, or getting more oil, I honestly don't know. What really peeves me off though is that Americans are taking all the credit.

All you EVER hear about is how an American soldier did something heroic, or an American soldier who died in service. As heartbreaking as it is to hear a soldier who died on the field of battle, you never hear ANYTHING about all the other guys who are there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinational_force_in_Iraq

While it's true that over 92% of the soldiers there are American, you never hear about any of the other soldiers who are killed in battle then. Why? Because it's not interesting to the Americans, so the media doesn't broadcast that. >.>

And THAT is why I hate the US. I don't hate Americans - I hate the US.